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Hookie Build 15. Groups & Couples. Facebook Page.

New alpha build of Dolphin 7 is up + BoonEx page at Facebook created + We need your opinions on how to implement Groups and Couples.

Dolphin 7 (Hookie) Alpha Build 15

We've made some important updates, which we'd love to discuss with you. We now try to follow your feedback and many changes are still in works. There's so much going on here, and we can show so little. Anyway, here's what there is for today:

1. Avatars. This is a new feature. The idea is to have a separate userpics system for a few reasons:

- Photos is an optional module, and we need core functionality for small userpics.

- Avatar may be a sign, picture, photo, small logo, etc. So, creating avatars for "photos" didn't sound natural.

- There was a need for seamless step for userpic creation after Join, preferably with cropping tool. Photos upload page didn't really work well, especially since it's becoming more and more sophisticated (albums, multi-file upload, etc.)

Avatars can be uploaded, cropped and chosen from available site-avatars (we added a nice selection of those).

So, say hello to Avatars. They can be found in "Account > Avatar" tab.

2. Floating member menu. Yes, it was too tall. We changed that. But there's a lot more to talk about. Member menu should work as the main communication "hub" and we'll be focusing on making it better. Now it's mainly "links", but it's supposed to be a messenger holder, notifications tracker, status updater, etc. It's getting there. It may as well double as a browser toolbar in future.

3. Video Player. Design is updated... again. We're still trying to find a proper "works for all" style for it, and hope it's a hit this time. You tell us. If it sticks - we'll update the other flash apps.

4. Sites. It's a new module, replacing the now obsolete "links" and working as a community links-sharing directory, much like Digg.com. Still at early stage of development.

5. Calendar. You know you could browse content using "Calendar", but it was messy when more than few items per day get added. Now it's being fixed in a simple yet effective manner.

We are half-way through with Store, Multi-photos upload, Action Buttons, Inviter, OpenID, and other stuff. The list of features at Trac is incomplete though, we'll be updating it during the week.

Alpha Demo is here.

Next update is planned to the Wed-Thu next week, but before then we need your input on one VERY, and I mean VERY important issue...

Groups and Couples

It's not the first time we raise this subject - Dolphin carried a few different implementations of couples and I still think it's not done right. So, let me know what you think about the following idea:

Group page can work much like a user profile. Same sub-tabs - Photos, Videos, Forum, Wall, etc. Similar homepage, but it'd have "Group Members" instead of "Friends" and "Admins" instead of the main member. Group members can post content, Admins can edit it. Admins can kick out members.

Now what if we use the same functionality for Couples, too? The catch is that Couple is also a "group". It's not a single person and there may be cases when members of a couple would need their own single-profiles. Like, for communicating with each other, posting their "personal" content, forming a new couple, etc. So, Adam and Eve have their own profiles, but there's also a "group" called "Adam and Eve" where they are both "Admins" - they'd have friends, separate place for couple photos, etc.

This can also work for "Families", "Bands", "Teams", "Businesses", you name it.

Tell me what you think.

BoonEx Page at Facebook

We've just created a BoonEx Page at Facebook. Come on board if FB is your preferred communication "environment".

BoonEx and Dolphin is getting more and more open and we're looking outside and from outside, hence FB page and a few other things to come.

Welcome to BoonEx Page at FaceBook!

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annabel
Hey Andrey,

There seems to be something wrong with your post, its not centered, so I can't read all of the text.

Nevertheless, I'll be glad to check out the demo.

Thanks for the update.
Andrew Boon
weird... works for me no matter how I test. What's you browser?
cbassthefish
Same happens for me. I am using I.E 7 with a screen res of 1280 x 1024 (if that make a different. Works okay in Firefox. Similar problems with your demo build 15, everything is out of alinement and the off line images are not present. Plus it takes about 40 secs to load. Again works perfectly in FireFox and is very fast..
MichelSwiss
Not working for me... Cannot see right par of your post with the most worldwide used browser: IE7
totallyfreak
Thats a very good idea... i will try the new alpha and see what happenning now
annabel
I can't find the avatar option and I don't see an floating menu ???
Andrew Boon
Account > Avatars. Also opens first thing after Join.
MichelSwiss
That don't work at all with the worldwide most used browser: IE...
MichelSwiss
Thanks for this update ;-)
As annabel already said, we cannot read the whole post (right hand part)...

Very good idea for Couples ! :-) The possibility to use such feature for Teams, Bands, etc... will be really great and very useful :-)

All these new features are nice :-) BUT PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO REPAIR MATCHING AND CUPID MAILS FEATURES THAT ARE NOT WORKING IN 6.1...
Andrew Boon
Won't forget'em. A new matching system is planned and a whole new mailing system too.
houstonlively
BUT.....please, please, pretty please with sugar on top, make sure we have admin functions to make those cute little cupid emails and matching stuff go away.
MichelSwiss
Something wrong again with pathes to icons with IE7 !!!

URLs to icons are looking like that: data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAgAAAAICAIAAABLbSncAAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccllPAAAAI5JREFUeNp0jjEOwyAMRZuqEgsIcgQYUbOxNveXIqYGlvQGoSkSMAb6U3Vsv2TLfv6W3bXWTr90QZRSvPfLY4FJKTVcB0pph2aappwz5xz19toIIeNtPGMDXtAY4xpWwcV8nwGPQa0Vea871D763pBShmfoRQ
MichelSwiss
Many things are broken using IE7 :-((

I get some Windows alert popup... For example: Stack overflow at line: 1268
Andrew Boon
Working on it... Developers normally use Firefox and Safari at this stage and test cross-browser later.
MichelSwiss
I don't contest your development's protocol... but don't forget that IE is from far the most worldwide used browser...
mastermindsro
Nice work! Can't wait to play with this gem :))

I like the couple as a group idea, it makes a hole lot of sense.. what if the couple breaks up? :)
The other group ideas are great! I think this is the right track..

About the audio/video players.. it looks better now.. but why should I lie.. I love the way dailymotion.com player looks, it's simplicity itself, simple but efficient, that's why it looks so classy.. by the way, I embedded the audio and video players on a blog but there are no links see more to the original page when I click on it.. and there are no "sites linking to the audio/video file" (like in youtube), or the website's logo in the player.. this should be nice..

In my opinion the best place on the layout for the floating menu is to be docked on the left side.. this way we see the entire page content all the time.. no accidental clicks on the logout button..
Just a simple toolbar with small icons, and expandable (auto-hide) menu on click..

Any improvements on classifieds? It should be interesting to allow each user to have C.V.'s in the profile, visible and available to search in the classifieds..
Andrew Boon
left-site... hm... how do we write member-usernames for chat tabs on it then?
mastermindsro
toolbar with icons > expanded icons + label > submenu (windows start > all programs > sub menus..)
is just a suggestion.. I think it works either way, the only difference is when you see it on top of the page content all the time..
MichelSwiss
Place the useless daily quotes in some easy to hide block and use this area to integrate this unwanted floating menu ;-)
MichelSwiss
I don't like at all these empty blocks that are displaying :-((
If some blocks are empty, why not to hide them ???
magicdust
I totally agree to HIDE the empty boxes, it looks like its broken and it bad fungshui from an energy level ;-)
totallyfreak
the floating panel on my opinion is too large... maybe it should be set by the admin... the default width... and now we cant see a popup info when you place the mouse over an icon... so you dont know what icon function is suppose to do... and user should be able to minimise it... like a windows in windows... or even move it(anywhere on the page) and resize it... possibility too to set it as vertical or horizontal.... another thing i see when i upload a music... the autostart... i upload 2 music see more on my account... and now when i go see my profil... the both music appear on the wall.... that ok... but the both start... so it is not very good for the ear.... and in other way... to help webmaster to save space on his server... user should be able to use music of other to put on their profil... if 50 user upload the last song of britney spears on their profil... it could be lame... so why not just make that the server verify if the title of the song uploaded is already on the server... and make a direct link to the first one uploaded unstead of upload another one for the 50th time... maybe make a deal with a album listing website like amazon or itunes... to make sure that song title is written correctly and not upload too many time for the same song.... and for the new video player is very nice... but maybe you should add the possibility to the admin to add a pub... by video or a fix image... set the number of sec of the advertising before the video start... this feature could be used by the admin for the regular member... and for the paying member the advertising dont show... and the possibility to ad the website logo as a watermark on each video... at the right bottom or left...

thx
YouDidntDidYou
1.We really need to be able to tag items with strings of words eg San Diego ends up as 2 tags as opposed to being just one tag like "San Diego", preferably using quotes method...................................
2. Potential uses of boards http://blogs.adobe.com/collabmethods/examples/YahooMaps_Cocomo.swf the other would be tha ability to drop jpegs straight onto boards and add funny captions etc and then share with other members of your community.
3. Make groups more customisable eg see more change fonts, colours, back ground images....eg imagine a football group in the teams colours, with football images as ther background...
4. Can see the ability to switch between couple and single profiles, for instance if you started dating someone you meet on the community you would be able then become a couple profile likewise if you were no longer a couple...
5. Floating member menu now looksfine.
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6. Avatars look good, but not madly keen on square crop, I know it will complicate things but is it possible to have a choice of crops either landscape, portrait or square and then resize it from there??
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7. On status menu can we have an "Update" button, pressing enter key on keyboard is not >>initatutive <<<<<<<spelling mistake I'm sure.
8. bigger customisation method on polls would be cool, and have choice of how results are displayed eg piecharts, graphs (image graphys would be funny) line graphs etc...

Last note: not to sure creating a facebook group is really the best idea......can you see Mark Zuckerburg founder of facebook adding his profile onto Dolphin's community website and telling everyone to communicate with him over here!?!*?!

aka "knight in slimey armour"
Andrew Boon
"Pride's no power" ;)

I'm sure Mark would set up a profile on BoonEx if it were a good promotion idea. Plus, we can test things.
YouDidntDidYou
well maybe Mark is here already lol ...I better check our community see if he is there too :-)
MichelSwiss
So many people asking for this floating menu to be forsaken... or at least to make it SMALLER... Now you make it even much bigger than the site width and partly hidden under the status bar (with FF, doesn't display at all with IE7...)

IMHO this floating menu is really a WRONG good idea :-((
annabel
Aha, I'm using IE7 ... that's why I don't even see the floating menu.
totallyfreak
another thing... very simple... i search for long time how to add video or music on the site.. to know that i need to select the tab profil and after the submenu music... why not simply add a tiny button on each section directly... when you browse music or other content section... see a tiny icon at the top of the page say: upload or add one.... same for video and other section... it should be easier for user to add content...

for the link section.. should have categorie too
Andrew Boon
That you will see in the next update. Almost done now.
MichelSwiss
Member thumbnail doesn't display anymore :-((
I don't want my members to just can use avatars :-((
Andrew Boon
We plan to let'em make avatars from any photo, too. Default photo, uploaded on Join form, also goes as an avatar. It looks a little weird on Demozzz.com now, but should be ok for a site that starts with the feature activated from day one.
MichelSwiss
OK :-) I understand now :-) Hope that my members will be smarter than me :-))
MichelSwiss
Profile and shared photos are mixed... Very bad :-((
Andrew Boon
They are the same thing. There's a category "Profile Photos", which feeds photos to profile homepage and other blocks. This scheme is used by quite a few sites, including Facebook, where you have a default album called "Photos of Me".
MichelSwiss
I don't share your point of view... Profile photos and other other photo albums are two very different things for me.
Waiting to see how it will work with Privacy settings...
YouDidntDidYou
sites module looks brillant...bit more choice on the font display eg colours etc
kinuthia
Looking great and great ideas too.

On the status bar i think it would be great if there is a collapsing option to reduce it to a very small icon which you can then click if you want the full status bar back. It is a very nice feature but can be a nuisance at times. Plus you want to give users full control. (you need them remember).

FACEBOOK!! - I don't like the idea at all. Rivals don't eat together; they fight. (just my opinion)
cbassthefish
Not really. It is rather a shrewd, move as they are increasing their exposure to people who actually like and use social networking applications. Free advertising.
YouDidntDidYou
not really, facebook users are hardly likely to jump ship....perhapsyou can look at the competition too much eh?
cbassthefish
No one ever said anything about jumping ship. Boonex is not a rival of FB merely a precursor of rivals. Different subject though. As I said, free advertising. The Alpha site currently has just over 800 active members that are interested in the current product. Imagine if all those active members have a FB account. Okay that is not realistic but were are talking about a maximum scenario. A study back along stated that the average FB member had an average of 164 members and 132 median members. Let see more us stick to average here. Times 164 by 800 and you get 131200 users. Being realistic, people filter content and some log in very few times or never again after registering. Even if only 20% the of users use FB active and get the information, then 26000 users who see the FB advertisement is nothing to be sniffed at. Maybe much less. As I said, free advertisement. We all want it.
YouDidntDidYou
***********random quotes************
where have they gone???? this just needs better implementation...we have done this on our join page here http://youdidntdidyou.co.uk/join.php when people join our site they can add their own random quotes which we then manually add to the front of our homepage, would be good for music, sports sites etc toooo.... (especially if there was some way of doing this automatically)
mastermindsro
yes quotes were very nice! I hope they are not gone for good..
MichelSwiss
Random quotes are still in the script ;-) Hope this feature will be placed in a block... Both top left and top right are the most important areas of the page.
IMHO this top right area is the ideal place to display the content of this unwanted floating menu :-)
MichelSwiss
Please make an option (like for auto start) for auto download of music... That is using uselessly lot of bandwidth each time I visit a profile to just send some Greeting for example.
YouDidntDidYou
Really need the ability to add images to blogs and embed videos etc.......
MichelSwiss
Still nothing has been reported about an email addresses, URLs and other bad words filter for the whole site content (including Ray IM, chat,...).

This is a very important must have feature !
 
 
 
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