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It's close, but...

... there's one bigger thing we need to discuss. The "green” thing…

Ok, I know that many of you are waiting for Dolphin 7, and I have to tell you - it really is worth the wait. We are running late, but it is a huge makeover - full code-cleaning, re-structuring, new design/layout, tons of new features, new admin, extra apps, real-deal integration with flash apps, etc, etc. Add to this that we're preparing a BoonEx.com site makeover, license system upgrade and a few other surprises. We don't want to rush it out of the door this time, so PLEASE be patient. 

Today, however, I am calling you to ask for help with something else - our upcoming "Green" page at BoonEx.com. We want to launch it along with Dolphin 7 and will probably use Dolphin somehow to make the "Green" page a success. 

Basically, we think about an open blog, where our Unity members would be able to share ideas about saving the environment and share their own experiences and achievements. A motivation blog, if you will. Videos and photos posting, maybe a forum. What would you recommend? 

Additionally, we plan to "plant a tree" or even "adopt a dolphin" with every license sold. We're ready to provide incentives to activists, ready to change licensing policies and allow use of our sites - BoonEx.com4ppl.com and LoveLandia.com to help… anything actually. 

That's all nice and dandy, but we really want to make a difference - a big difference. We need ideas and help. What do you think BoonEx could do to become a substantial force in environmental protection and conservation initiatives? Come up with specific suggestions, please.

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Splinter
Happy New Year to Boonex team!

Just one question on Dolphin 7: Will the underlying code be restructured? Because the developers I have found to adjust Dolphin 6 to my own needs all told me that they would prefer not to touch Dolphin but instead use something else like Community Engine or Insoshi because it is based on Rails, has clearer structure and provides testing routines. Although all the functions of Dolphin would need to be implemented in those alternatives by hand - let alone Ray!

However see more I like Dolphin much more and I am more a friend of Boonex but in the end I am dependent on my developers and if they do not want to work with Dolphin, I have to follow them.

So, what can I tell them to convince them to work with Dolphin 7?

And regarding the saviour of our planet it comes down to extending globalization also to laws and other legal things in order to avoid exploitation of nature in poorer countries.
wickedsunny
Sweet nice to hear it. yup im redy to participate :) cant wait
iced
Nice update

The blog idea sounds great... it will be great to have an rss feed so ppl can keep track of (or monitor) the blogs (generally) or individual unity member's blogs.

____Green issues____
"What do you think BoonEx could do to become a substantial force in environmental protection and conservation initiatives?"

That is a much more interesting topic as the world needs to seriously look at this. Rather than planting a tree, why doesn't boonex use its "human" resources see more (rather than "financial" resources) to become a substantial force in environmental protection and conservation initiatives? When I say human resources, I mean all developers at boonex... rather than donations or planting trees.

Look at "greenpeace" or http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/

Boonex can use Dolphin 7 (or Shark etc) to launch a community site/portal (with a relevant domain name) that primarily focuses on discussing environmental/conservation issues... not just that, such community site/portal can also have an educational section for the younger generation. Boonex can use such portal to assist other organisations such as greenpeace in many initiatives. That is what I believe will make Boonex a real contributor as it will contribute proactively to change people's view of their world.
beamar
I totally agree with iced, which is why i used dolphin to set up ecofriendz.com last year. The trouble is trying to get people to join and maintain the momentum is really hard.
People think about "saving the planet" when the topic is in the news or "IN VOGUE" but time passes, and they forget and get on with their lives? I have already set up a global seed swap group within the site. Maybe boonex can have a GREEN SITE DIRECTORY so we can all list/join our favourite sites.?
todaler
Does this mean that you will not release a BETA source code? I ask this because you say you want to incorporate Dolphin 7 into the new site, or will you just be incorporating a BETA vr? I really an looking forward to seeing the site, truly can not wait lol. So I was just curious if there would be a BETA release.
gregorscharff
in think the green idea alot and we will share our ideas there too for shure, i wish you and your team a great new year with many creativ ideas and the power to move on . all the best for you all
PS: dolphin 7 sounds great but dont hurry if you need time to dev.
kind regards
gregor
MichelSwiss
I think that it will a better idea to join your effort to Greenpeace, WWF, Amnesty International, ATTAC (+Independent Media Center)... which are already worldwide well organized rather than to disperse your efforts...

Such worries about our planet are not any more subject of discussion here in Switzerland but simple choices in the ordinary life (to buy, to use... this product or not, to change "bad" habits, etc... )
gautam
why not form a little organisation kind of thing to support ACTIVE NGOs....there are many people like me who r already working on several issues like Environment, Road Safety...n few others...people can help us...

How? Boonex can allow us to have a system in which we can post about our project progress, along with photographs and some stuff to show that its true and not fake....then if people wish, they can suppport us in what ever way...

I plan to launch a Project at my small town to inculcate see more Environment awareness among students....and would be extending it gradually to villages...it would be a complete youth participation roject...and wud not only target emvironment but also other related issues....
In case,,u want to learn a bit, try searching for town 'Fazilka'. You will find that our town has made many initiatives like Car free Zones, Enviironmental fests...and lot more...

i'm not trying to advertiese..or something lyk dat...its that i'm not getting words to post my ideas....i'm full confused n just writing watever is coming to ma mind :)
hope i wud back again with a serious note...
mickscool
C'mon guys .. atleast add some time estimate to that post - 2,4, 6, 8 weeks or something .. some rough benchmark...

The 'green' thing sounds good. My suggestion would be

- how about setting up a sms campaign, so that every person who wants to support the campaign, sends a text message like 'green' to some shortcode or some number. This way the site will be able to earn from the 1000s of SMS messages received and then use it to plant some trees or some other way.

- start a 'pledge' based see more service like 'http://www.pledgebank.com/' where ppl can pledge for environment related topics. Try to create widgets, which anybody can embed on their site and the users of that site can pledge as well.
wawadip
Happy New Year to Boonex team!

Ok Well first of all thank you for this>

''We don't want to rush it out of the door this time, so PLEASE be patient. '''

i will but please shout out something Big man
honestly I think that everybody are tired of all updates and updates and updates

Booonex Clients Need Somethind Stable
Like Phpf and others

Thks
CALTRADE
Guys, I agree with Michael and the others who have posted similar opinions - there are LOTS of good NGOs out there concentrating on environmental issues that could be supported instead, this sounds like a huge distraction. Boonex could contribute much more to society by concentrating on getting some good software out the door and their primary mission of "connecting people". This delay is now impacting our businesses. I took the November estimate of "a couple of weeks" to see more heart. Right now, I have a business customer who wants a Dolphin site, but I don't know whether to install the current version and go through the long process of modifying it for business, or if I should just wait for Dolphin 7, and then to an upgrade. Time estimates like "soon" don't help a bit. Could we at least know if it will be in January?
SpotMan
Good points. Is anyone at Boonex listening?
Who is accountable?

These are simple business questions.
killerhaai
I 'am in the same train as Caltrade, also I have two Clients for who a Dolphin site is planted. I know also that Boonex want a stable version on the market. But also I say give us some idea how long before we can experiment with version 7. Else I have to buy several mods...
wolf2217
Thanks for the update, can't wait :)
I like the idea on the "Green" and think that having a environmental blog is a good idea for sure.
Maybe have the blog entries as "Title", "Enviromental Experience", "Protect the green video" following their post.
Making things unique is by far what the dolphin/boonex team is good at...keep it unique and different.
Am i way out the poop shoot with this???
Dwain
I would just like to point out that by providing a working, easy to install, administer and configure community software Boonex is already helping with the "green thing" and many other projects as well.

That software has the ability to be the glue that binds people together as a community, to provide the means to Unify people and allow them to congregate and communicate easily.

I have a plan to use Dolphin to create a community that plants seeds of hope in the hearts of people who see more are less fortunate than others, to share knowledge on such things as organic food production, microfinancing, low cost habitats and encourage people to help each other have the best life they can.

It's wonderful if we can all do our best for the poor, take care of the environment and build a more positive world and I encourage every one to give their best efforts any way they can.

For instance if you build software make it the most functional and easiest to use as you can. If you are a farmer, produce the best food you can grow, if you are a carpenter build structures you can be proud of.

If you are a web host be the best web host you can be, answer support tickets and keep your servers on line and trouble free.

Provide the services you agreed to and not just offer excuses or promises of what is coming soon.

Let's encourage each other, teach each other and all do our very best at what we are good at. That should be our main goal in life.

If we can plant trees, save dolphins or give to feed and educate the poor let's do that too, but what ever we do let's all do it in a positive, whole hearted manner.

Too many irons in the fire at one time tends to distract from the main chores we have to do and nothing gets done.

Just my opinions.
Stuart038
I agree with Caltrade and Killerhai. Lets get Dolphin 7 out of the door and allow those members who wish to get involved with the ecological efforts or not, a choice. Do not lose focus on your primary objectives.
SpotMan
Good points. Is anyone at Boonex listening?
boonhick
Agree with Stuart038,

When Donald Trump encountered a negative net-worth of $900 million and was asked about learning from mistakes/failures, he summed his problems up in one point – losing focus.

Boonex group, asks yourselves this, are you a non-profit environmental orgainzation or a software company foremost?

We are your seeds, so nurture us first ;-)
grv
I agree with boonhick....

It is good to have corporate social responsibility but, is this your main objective? Let's focus first on something great then everyone will follow you then.

Happy New Year!!
Andrew Boon
I'll try to answer all of the comments above in this post...


1. CODE.

Yes, the underlying code is being restructured. Dramatically.

- Most importantly, almost everything is moved to separated modules - great thing for developers - no need to mess with Dolphin code anymore - just write new modules and go. 99% of the code is moved to the modules now (finally a proper separation).

- Improved caches and database requests handling - better performance.

- Classes everywhere.

- All-new see more flash apps integration system for easy "one-click" installation/integration.

- Modules interoperability tools for easy integration of separate modules (ex: add "comments" to your new module easily)

- Orca and Ray Widgets are being integrated as parts of Dolphins rather than as standalone systems.

- The whole system is getting a layout and functionality makeover - we're trying to have a unified interface and UI patterns.

There's a lot more, and I hope we'll start showing it soon.


2. BETA.

We will definitely release a beta version. This time we plan to run beta development as long as it may be needed to release a REALLY stable version. moreover, starting from Dolphin 7 we're going 100% open-source, inclding Flash-apps, so we'll be looking for community help.


3. OUTSOURCING THE 'GREEN' ISSUE

We do that already and we'll be doing that more, but our resources are limited, while our potential is not. I still believe that BoonEx can also contribute to the environment in it's special and very effective way. We're at a unique position, which should be leveraged somehow.


4. FOCUS

I absolutely agree that "sticking to your knitting" is the way to go. This is the idea behind Dolphin 7 actually. We decided to concentrate on one, single, most important product now - bring everything together, simplify, improve, polish, make it accessible, make it affordable, make it great.

Functional and reliable Dolphin is the most important and the most powerful step we can do to achieve the "green" goal and it will continue being the major focus for us.

When talking about "green" thing, I try to find ways to conveniently "USE" Dolphin as a tool for spreading awareness and achieving "green" goals; and we're looking for actions that can in return help us in the process of DOlphin development, improvement and popularization. For example...


5. EXAMPLES

Based on your suggestion, I can already think of a few changes...

- Free licenses for communities build for positive cause: NGOs, "green" communities, or even communities supporting other "green" organizations.

- We're developing a "hall of fame" directory of good Dolphin-based sites, and "green" sites could get a special featuring.

- Turning BoonEx.us into a "green" community (?). We have Unity for discussing the software, and BoonEx.us has no specific goal/meaning, so why not?

- Occasional newsletters with ideas sharing and BoonEx "green" pages promotion. I believe that a positive meaning can be a great uniting force for the community and could intensify collaboration. It's a great feeling when you know that you do something for money AND for the environment at the same time.

- Fill default Dolphin package with "green" content - articles, links, etc. Some default content gives good understanding of how the system works, but can be easily removed, if need be.


See, we can do something without loosing or changing focus. I'm sure you have even better ideas ;)
davidetome
Please, tell us something about migration from 6.1.4 to 7
:-)

Thanks
Davide
Stuart038
I am concerned that Boonex will use Dolphin as a platform to force there green views on the rest of us. I do not want to have to find another software platform as I think Dolphin is excellent.
Andrew Boon
Forcing anyone to do anything is just not the way "green" things have to be done. So, we'll make sure whatever we do in this respect is optional.
annabel
I have this strange feeling that free licenses, granted more than a year ago to contributors, are going to be deprecated if we do not include a 'green' idea in our sites.
If all coding is being restructured, what happens to existing websites ? Can we upgrade ? Can we import existing members and functionalities into the new database ?
And finally, all the effort and cost we put in mods ... can we still use them when we decide NOT to upgrade to 7 ?
I'm just a little bit sceptical about all this see more 'good' news :-)
Andrew Boon
Whatever is given should not be taken back. Free licenses have been well deserved and we won't be putting any new "conditions" for them.

As for upgrades and migration - that is a huge question and as you know current Dolphin structure has always been a problem when it comes to mods migration version-to-version. We're trying to put this to end, by separating modules in v7.

We will definitely provide upgrade scripts, difference files and migration packs, but lots of mods would have see more to be upgraded. One thing we can do is to openly encourage all Experts to prepare free version upgrades and instructions.

Dolphin 7 is really, really, really MUCH better than 6.1, so please don't be skeptical.
YouDidntDidYou
hey can we expect the ability to add jpegs to the whiteboard (drag n drop would be great) also replace countries with places or at least make it editable fom the admin menu....Dolphin 7 sounds so good
Andrew Boon
Some good ideas, but don't we're already try to avoid adding and significant extras. We'll se what we can do, though.
 
 
 
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