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No chat admin or moderators makes 6.1.1 a usless piece of crap

How on earth can you run a chat room and have no powers over its use? not only can you not appoint moderators, even as a site owner you cant kick anyone from the chat. thats a pathetic oversight from a so called professional team of script writers.

people are screaming out for more control like ip lookup and what do you come up with?

no control whatsoever.

site owner has no control in chat, an admin can suspend a user but cant kick them from chat, so has to take all the abuse until they leave.

how pathetic is that?

why oh why when it was pointed out 2 weeks ago, did you not include a fix with the update?

talk about shooting yourself in the foot. thats such a major error, you aimed for the head.

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gkcgautam
Rightly said sammie.
What i personally feel is that Boonex is trying to add those features to Dolphin, which we don't need that much, earlier than the most required ones. For instance, the groups in Dolphin are still the same with few features. Even after so many request from people, moderator and poll system has not been added to it. If you have a look over the groups at orkut, you can see that after the feature of moderator, they have also added co-owner feature. There are many other extra features see more like news feeds for groups. But our dolphin is still moving with the traditional groups.

The second example is that of Scrapbook. boonex had promised long time back at boonex.org that they will definately add Scrapbook to 6.1 , but they have not implemented it yet. We need such a feature to increase website activities.

There many other such examples which show that Dolphin is quite behind its aim. Though dolphin has so many features, site admin does not have complete control over them. If we want to remove a feature, we've to do that manually by editting the code which leads to various problems when we've to upgrade to new version of dolphin.
I would request boonex to first work on the main features like scrapbook n then add small features. Now dont say that mods are available at expertzzz. Thats not a complete solution. There is a plenty of difference between works of expertzzz n boonex team because the latter develops it keeping in mind the future dolphin and so it doesnt cause any problem during upgrade.
Please hear us boonex.
sammie
we have chat admin and moderators in 6.0.0005. it worked, to move to 6.1.1 and not have chat admin or moderators is a step backwards
such a huge step back, it ranks with chipping sms messages on tablets of stone.
sammie
Let me put this in perspective.
i own a lesbian site, it has Dolphin 6.0.0005 running.
we have had 228 people register (103 this month) for the site, we verify the gender of all members, i.e. no men allowed to join. Lesbian means women only.
but perverted men have flooded other lesbian cam chat sites with fake female accounts, in the hope of gaining sexual cam chat or sexual chat to jack off to the thought of a lesbian talking sexually to them. my site is the only lesbian website that verifies see more the gender of all our members and tags their profiles as verified.

of the 228 that registered:
110 are fully verified females
34 are still to be verified
84 men registered and failed the verification.
thats 84 males acting as females to sexually abuse my members and myself.
84 that needed to be kicked from the chat room.

84 perverts i can no longer get rid of if i update my site to 6.1.1.

sorry i find this totally unacceptable and this is also the reason i believe ip lookup is also important to Dolphin, as it is an adult cam chat, it is important to give us the tools to prevent sexual predators from joining the sites and sexually abusing our members.
shaneed
Hi sammie. Well, you are right in this, but until boonex comes up with this modification, you can use an existing one which helps you trace every IP and ban it, even restricting the access countrywide. And it helps you keep away those annoyng individuals. Check for Access Management System. I dont say more because i dont want to advertise, is just an advice.
gkcgautam
I'm again wid u...that means some day boonex can launch a version which won't have groups :-)
sammie
the sad thing is, that the way dolphin sites are now, you have to log out from the site and into the moderator page to do the little you can, and the little you can change as a moderator is really not any help to the site admin.

a site owner/admin wants to setup the site and appoint others to share the workload, i have way to much to be doing than to sit on my site 24/7 and do everything that others cant do.

you shouldnt have to login with a different account, one account should be enough to see more access everything and still post as a normal user
CyberXing
Sammie,

I agree with you..

Were are you hosting the RMS ??

I am not at my office at the moment, but I am wondering if its possible to place a filter for "failed profiles" attached to the access.dat file, and will deny the connections.

By all means this would NOT be a solution for longterm, but I would think for the short term it could be ok.

I do need to look at it a bit more, but when a users enters any widget based section, the RMS servers get the USERID with the request, see more so I just need to look to see how to "fail" the ones in a list.

Thoughts ?

CyberXing
sammie
well i cant use 6.1.1 for my main site, and the test site i setup i have the rms at boobex just now, but with you if and when Dolphin was usable (as it stands i cant use it at all) not without any admin or moderator controls sweetie. so in effect it has killed the test site, no point testing something thats useless from the outset.
matthammer
Couldn't agree with you more on that one. When i had problems with Ray last year, i looked at other possibilities.

Chat was pretty much the only widget i had active and there are plenty of alternatives, including writing your own. Total control, plus no ads etc :)
nurke
If you ban unwanted members from dolphin admin side...how can they enter your chat room?
Or you want to keep fakeonse so the real ones think there is "something for them"???
Just keep it clean and dedicated, ban all men and you will be good.
sammie
ok the site works like this,
lesbians spread the word about a safe site free from men, so register on the site, to verify they have to enter chat and perform a task live on cam, so we know its not a cam girl recording.
the ones that do the task are females, the ones that end the cam session because they sit and smile and look sexy are males sending a cam girl recording to try and pass as a female. they cant do a task, they cant do anything we ask, so they are busted within 2 minutes of entering see more chat,
the account is then suspended and they are kicked/baaned from chat.

with 6.1.1 you can only suspend the account, they are already in chat to start with, and we cant =kick/ban them
sammie
while on the subject of suspending accounts on the main admin/moderator page, when you suspend an accout, they can remain on the site and use all the services as long as they do not logout,
there should be an action call to logout suspended accounts when you hit save settings on the profile you suspended
nurke
Hm, after imagining my self in that situation...maybe this is what I would try to do....go to admin/ plugin/ray/ a/vchat...disable it for few minutes...I asume all loged in members would get kicked out...
then if you wrote down who those male mebers are, justdelet their accounts... it they keep signing in, report tem to their account host...yahoo, gmail...
I assume if you disable then enable chat.. all users in the chat woudnt be able to stay in... once activated...the room would be empty and real see more users would join in...
another option....make 1 private room...no members can make chat rooms...and all approved females, would get private pass from you...
sammie
how about just having the kick button?
thinklucky13
I agree, this was one of many oversights. The upgrade deleted all of my comments and more. Very unprofessional.
sammie
well i refuse to upgrade my main site until the issues are dealt with,
dannyfromnj
I posted this in the Ray forum and the Dolphin forums at Expertzzz... but didn't get any valid responses, so I'm reposting here to join the crowd...

Where did the Ray Chat Admin functionality go? The new 3.5 (I'm using paid, Ad-Free version), unless I've overlooked something doesn't have an Admin feature anymore.

Not having an Admin feature basically makes Ray chat unusable. This makes it impossible to monitor the room and ensure trouble makers don't roll in and verbally abuse people, or worse.

What see more did I pay for... something I can't use? There wasn't even any mention of this before I upgraded.

Has anybody actually heard from Boonex yet... what's the official word on this?

Thanks!

Danny
darrenw
i must agree with you admin interice is not there well bad i am not buying dolphin and chat for a while untill that system comes back i am new anyway
RumpyBumpy
Sammie,

What idiot is giving all these EXCELLENT posts a thumbs down and/or negative???

Doesn't make sense!

Admin control is an absolute must and otherwise (as you said) is USELESS!!!
 
 
 
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