Orca can it be made better then what it is?

zorro posted 23rd of February 2010 in Community Voice. 9 comments.

Ok first off let me say this now that I got your attention. I know Boonex has enough on their plate with fixes already for 7.1 But maybe after that its time to take a serious look at how to make Orca much better as there are so many that just do not like it for many different reasons.

Many people seem to like VBulleten and PHPBB for many diffrent reasons as well as many other forums out there. My personal favorite is VBulleten and there is even a VBulleten on steroids third-party upgrade you can buy called VBSEO.


http://www.forum-software.org is a cool little site that compares the differences between different forums software that could be useful to the Boonex Orca development team to look at ideas as to how to make Orca better..!


Now having said that I do realize that Boonex business model is not to have the very best forums software out on the market that would be a complete another business all together.

But having the right forums software is one of the keys to getting good traffic to your site and getting your members interacting with each other.


So all I am suggesting is maybe having a look at this comparison chart and then thinking about improving some of the basics in the Orca script like some of these guys have.

Zorro......

 
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mydatery
There's an upgraded version of Orca in D7? Where? Where? Where did that put it George? Where did they put it?
zorro
Magnussoft,

Not sure if I get why you would make Orca stand alone and what you are trying to convey. I am not asking for a stand alone Orca.

Orca while not many of us like it it is very much entrenched into D7 just like earlier versions.

For example, you cannot install certain modules unless Orca is first installed. I have reviewed some of the third-party mods out here and most are just an IFrame integration of whatever forum that is being used to replace Orca. This is not helpful when see more it comes to SEO. The other thing is because Orca is so heavily integrated into Dolphin no matter what third-party solution you go with is going to be a coding mess and be quite the challenge for future upgrades of D7.

So my thoughts are just make Orca a little better or have Boonex write some good Third-party module integrations into core D7 to allows us to choose what forum to use.

Either or both of these approaches would be a step in the right direction.

Zorro...................
zorro
Magnussoft,

Not sure if I get why you would make Orca stand alone and what you are trying to convey. I am not asking for a stand alone Orca.

Orca while not many of us like it it is very much entrenched into D7 just like earlier versions.

For example, you cannot install certain modules unless Orca is first installed. I have reviewed some of the third-party mods out here and most are just an IFrame integration of whatever forum that is being used to replace Orca. This is not helpful when see more it comes to SEO. The other thing is because Orca is so heavily integrated into Dolphin no matter what third-party solution you go with is going to be a coding mess and be quite the challenge for future upgrades of D7.

So my thoughts are just make Orca a little better or have Boonex write some good Third-party module integrations into core D7 to allows us to choose what forum to use.

Either or both of these approaches would be a step in the right direction.

Zorro...................
DeeEmm
I kinda agree with the OP, I think that Orca could be improved and made to be more acceptable. I think that most of the issues with Orca stem from the lack of administration features - the 'backend'. It's front end usability is not really so bad and can actually be made usable, with a few mods. (yeah yeah - we know - this should be core functionality).

I decided to stick with Orca on my site and have turned it into something a little better and more usable by adding in extra admin functions and see more a few font end enhancements, there's still a few more mods I want to do, but generally I prefer Orca as it is properly integrated and is nice and lean.

Whilst PHPBB and the others are definitely far superior products. IMHO integration into a dolphin site also brings a lot of unnecessary 'bloat', a lot of things are doubled up such as private messaging, avatar handling etc. This is not to say that one is better than the other, but for me the forums are not the main focus for my site, so the lean look suits my particular community better.

I think for sites where the forum is not the center of communications, Orca is fine, but for those sites where the forums form the main backbone of of what goes on, then something like PHPBB is a must, as there is every chance that you will lose users to another site with a better forum.
zorro
Having some simple features in Orca for members even as simple as

1. Small Link Or Stats Block For Members Letting Them Know How Many They Have Not Read
2. Mark Read and/or Mark All Read
3. Configure Notifications.
3. Forum Moderators. This one may be in D7 have not looked yet.

I think Orca just needs a paint job. But needs to be very user friendly and SEO ablity all the way down to the post level.

Zorro....!
tomakali
:-S cant put a smiley here to express my mood.
Nathan Paton
@zorro: Actually, my post did have some meaning.

BoonEx has made some slight modifications to Orca in Dolphin 7, though not necessarily noticeable. I was just stating that the only way for myself to use (and anyone one else who still uses) Orca as a standalone forum with the needed upgrades is to take Dolphin 7 and carve-out all the fat from around the forum.

As for any integrations, BoonEx has promised numerous different integrations in the past, all which have so far seen no progress. I wouldn't see more get my hopes up, if I were you. And to be honest, that goes for any needed enhancements to Orca.

Orca is still in version 2.0.2, which was released several years ago, and has not changed much since then. The only differences are the integrations into Dolphin.
 
 
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