Softaculous is not what it was baked up to be for Dolphin 7

DosDawg posted 14th of April 2010 in Community Voice. 18 comments.

It does appear that many are and were all fired up about the one click installer that was touted by one agent here on the blogs, as if it was the new gold! After many tests, and I mean many, and spending my money to test it, similar to the whole boonex platform, it has been determined this is as a big of piece of crap as the auto-installer was that was released by boonex themselves sometime ago.

Several things, first i do want to say at least softaculous got the whole directory selection straight, which was one issue that seemed to HAUNT the boon boys.

Guys we all know how important the cron jobs are for Dolphin 7 and its infinite processing. Well tested and retested, been reported and ignored. The auto-installer for dolphin 7 does not create cron jobs. Also has some serious issues with the permission settings, insomuch that it is written to setup 777, oh yeah, 777 all over the place. Guess what that gives you ERRORS indeed.

At any rate, i wanted to blog off about this and see what experience others have had with this, as i think its hideous.

Regards,

DosDawg

Old School Installer (no one clicker here)

 
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dolphin_jay
Yeah same findings here as well.
houstonlively
I take it the auto installer doesn't take into account that the server may be running suPHP when it sets permissions to 777?
DosDawg
that is correct, totally obliterates the site, and of course the so-called hosting company who is paying $4.00/month for softaculous dont give two turds whether it worked or not, and tell you its been sent to the developers. familiar sound eh. wonder why they couldnt get fantastico to include it on their package. HELLO

Regards,
DosDawg
houstonlively
Personally, I think anybody that wants to run a site based on Dolphin, should learn to install the script themselves.
DosDawg
i agree that one should be able to install dolphin, but look at where joomla, oscommerce, zen cart, and many many others have gone with their auto-installer, most specifically wordpress.

there is no reason why dolphin cant get a functional installer, and not just from the web, i have seen apps that install from your desktop to the server when you provide credentials.

Regards,
DosDawg
killerhaai
Well I love to install the scrips on my own. No auto installer :)
I want to know what is happening on our servers ...
ydrargyros
@killerhaai
true, true!
but nice knowing there's an auto-installer out there
cbassthefish
I am an auto-installer. I work most of the time :P
ydrargyros
lol @ cbass, well do you cost less than a fantastico license?
cbassthefish
I guarantee the 100% of my installs will work almost all of the time. :P
buckmcgoo
@DosDawg, I just started working with Wordpress and it's AMAZING.. I think Boon should talk with them and find out how you can install wordpress and users can upload files and NOTHING has to be set to 777!
CodeSatori
Can we get a cbassthefish plugin please?

BuckMcGoo, I believe Wordpress uses a FTP class to set the permissions.
CodeSatori
"Hello", LyubovL has posted an update on this.

"There as a recent post with a glaring title regarding Softaculous auto-installer issues. I juts wanted to let people know that the info posted there is absolutely wrong and doesn't have anything to do with the facts."

More: http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Hello_2010_04_20

Can anyone share the sources for the auto-installer? Would be curious to see what it's actually made of, and what the facts of the matter are.
cbassthefish
@ CodeSatori: Yes I can be a bit of a spam bot at times with very little that is constructive to say.

Correct me if I am wrong bit isn't Softaculous encrypted with ionCube? If so you would not be able to browse much of the source.
CodeSatori
@Cbass: I haven't actually toyed around with Softaculous, though I've been looking into Fantastico and worked with general one-script installers in the past. I need to read up on them and see what this is all about.
cbassthefish
The free version unfortunately does not contain Dolphin 7. The Premium version is actually quite reasonably priced (http://www.softaculous.com/pricing) when compared to fantastico.
DosDawg
Codesatori,
thanks for the write-in. The source is not attainable i wouldnt suspect. Now, in regards to what was stated that my post was absolutely wrong, please see where dolphin_day confirmed this issue, and he is a tech who spends a bit of time on the arvixe servers, and this was reported by him as well to arvixe. prior to the post, it was written in to arvixe support staff by the account owner who we were helping, and brought up the issue with softaculous not creating the cron jobs.

now see more if someobody has further factual information on this, please do share it. having a person post that my post was wrong, when in all likelihood, it has never even been attempted to install dolphin with or without the auto-installer.

As for the remarks server configuration issue. nice try, but wont work on me. see we were able to sucessfully install Dolphin 7 and run the migration if we done the work manually. so there is nothing wrong with the server configuration. There is however, something wrong with the auto-installer script when it comes to installing dolphin.

I have purchased this entire auto-installer app softaculous, and paid $4.00 for the month so i can see for myself on my servers if its junk or not. since we have no affirmation from anybody who has used it as to whether it installs correctly and creates the cron jobs, then my position stands until further facts.

Regards,
DosDawg
Hi,
I am alons , a developer at Softaculous.
DosDawg was right about the permissions error. There had been a communication gap causing all this confusion. When he posted his detailed report on 22.4.2010 (we were not aware of the post and read it on 23rd), we understood what he was referring to and released a PATCH on the 23rd itself.
We take security very seriously, so please dont hesitate to contact us if you find bugs.
 
 
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