let me respond to teenzup about wanna be's everyone starts off as wanna be's it is through time and a willingness to learn that one grows. I for one don't have the time to fully immerse myself in the programming when there are many other jobs an owner must face as well. so let's be nice to those just starting off because the skill set is only one part of the game,... they may have the next big idea and become the next facebook, myspace,myyearbook and countless others...i agree that with more control see more over the template that would free the programmer the ability to concentrate on mod's aimed at content and services which would make dolphin ahead of the rest. this is my first site with dolphin as i have tried engines like phpfox and joomala ...