great post and i agree with you.keep ppl working in that number that works need it.to much experts can make too much problems.always need much much more time to fix something then to make it from start and ppl need to be aware of that.i didnt read too much but i can give one idea and sorry if that exist but can you ppl make script that will safely export members info (logins,pass,pics etc) im talking about important info from database and files from server and to be imported to new versions of dolphin? see more i know that is too much job but that would safe alot time for fixing upgrading that failed. tnx and keep it going,you ppl doing great job :)