If im understanding correctly all of the databases i create are using the utf8_general_ci collation language and i dont have problems anywhere else with this annoyance. As for me using a 'method' i have always just used the defaults and like i said have no problems. I'm no pro at this but i do get around fairly decent in myphphadmin. Should i expect rudeness in reply??? lol

If this isnt the info you wanted to know please direct me to where i can find out ... all i want to do is solve this issue. see more thanks for your response in advance.