Migrating Data from 6.1.6 to D7.0.2

I see that Boonex has done a great job by adding an option to migrate data from an older version. I was trying to do that, after I configured the source and destination, I selected to migrate "profiles" first, but the button I was about click on, says "Move Data" which is not what I wanted to do, I'd like to "Copy data" instead to the new version D7 and keep it in the older version. I was wondering if the "Move Data" button is missleading, whether in fact it moves data or it does a copy instead..

If someone has done this already, I'd apprecaite your input on this.

Thank you.

-AJ

Quote · 16 Jul 2010

If you're unsure, make a backup. I've never used the migration module, but I do not believe that it actually takes the data from web site A and transfers it to web site B, but instead just copies it.

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Quote · 16 Jul 2010

Hi Morocco,

Please be aware that migrating from D6 to D7 messes up the URLs. As a result, you will lose any search rankings that you have accumulated.

My advice, if you have any kind of rankings, is not to do it, and stick with D6

02c/DM

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Quote · 16 Jul 2010

Additionally, it does not transfer ALL data.

/DM

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Quote · 16 Jul 2010

Hi Morocco,

Please be aware that migrating from D6 to D7 messes up the URLs. As a result, you will lose any search rankings that you have accumulated.

My advice, if you have any kind of rankings, is not to do it, and stick with D6

02c/DM

Define "messing up."

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Quote · 16 Jul 2010

Hi Morocco,

Please be aware that migrating from D6 to D7 messes up the URLs. As a result, you will lose any search rankings that you have accumulated.

My advice, if you have any kind of rankings, is not to do it, and stick with D6

02c/DM

Define "messing up."

Guess you must have missed my whinging about this - http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Dolphin_SEO_what_a_joke_

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Quote · 16 Jul 2010

Hi Morocco,

Please be aware that migrating from D6 to D7 messes up the URLs. As a result, you will lose any search rankings that you have accumulated.

My advice, if you have any kind of rankings, is not to do it, and stick with D6

02c/DM

Define "messing up."

Guess you must have missed my whinging about this - http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Dolphin_SEO_what_a_joke_

I thought you meant that. Yes, the URL structure changed, but it's nothing a proper redirect can't fix.

Edit: http://www.boonex.com/trac/dolphin/wiki/6.1.6to7.0

All the needed rewrite rules are in the migration documentation.

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Quote · 16 Jul 2010

I thought you meant that. Yes, the URL structure changed, but it's nothing a proper redirect can't fix.

Edit: http://www.boonex.com/trac/dolphin/wiki/6.1.6to7.0

All the needed rewrite rules are in the migration documentation.

Actually - no it cannot be completely fixed. The mod re-write rules only fix some of the URLs - not all.

As per the security issue - you choose to read / absorb / understand only that which you wish to. Perhaps you should read the whole post and do some testing.

If the issue is so easily fixed with a redirect, please post it here for the benefit of all

Also, you missed commenting on the issue that not all data is transferred

/DM

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Quote · 17 Jul 2010

I thought you meant that. Yes, the URL structure changed, but it's nothing a proper redirect can't fix.

Edit: http://www.boonex.com/trac/dolphin/wiki/6.1.6to7.0

All the needed rewrite rules are in the migration documentation.

Actually - no it cannot be completely fixed. The mod re-write rules only fix some of the URLs - not all.

As per the security issue - you choose to read / absorb / understand only that which you wish to. Perhaps you should read the whole post and do some testing.

If the issue is so easily fixed with a redirect, please post it here for the benefit of all

/DM

If you have other URLs that will need redirection, add them. Regarding a "security issue," I have no idea what you're talking about; you'll have to refresh my memory.

I just posted the link to the documentation, which includes said redirect rules. But if you insist:

RewriteBase /path-to-your-dolphin-url-folder/

RewriteRule ^articles/{0,1}$    m/articles/index/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^articles/entry/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$   m/articles/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^articles/entry/{0,1}$   m/articles/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^articles/category/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$   m/articles/category/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]

RewriteRule ^news/{0,1}$    m/news/index/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^news/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$    m/news/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]

RewriteRule ^ads/search/{0,1}$    classifieds.php?SearchForm=1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ads/my/{0,1}$    modules/boonex/ads/classifieds.php?action=my_page [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ads/new/{0,1}$    modules/boonex/ads/classifieds.php?action=show_all_ads [QSA,L,R=permanent]

RewriteRule ^events/{0,1}$  m/events/home/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/all/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/events/browse/upcoming/$2/$1  [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/part/{0,1}$  m/events/browse/upcoming/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/search/{0,1}$  m/events/browse/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/search/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/events/browse/tag/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/my/{0,1}$  m/events/browse/my [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/new/{0,1}$  m/events/browse/upcoming [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/entry/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/events/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^events/part/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/events/browse_participants/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]

RewriteRule ^groups/all/{0,1}$    m/groups/home/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^groups/entry/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$    m/groups/view/$1    [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^groups/category/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$    m/groups/browse/category/$1    [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^groups/keyword/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$    m/groups/browse/tag/$1    [QSA,L,R=permanent]

RewriteRule ^photo/all/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$ m/photos/browse/all/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery_top/{0,1}$ m/photos/browse/top/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery_top/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/photos/browse/top/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery_top/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/photos/top/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/photos/browse/tag/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/$  m/photos/browse/tag/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/photos/browse/tag/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)$  m/photos/albums/browse/owner/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/$  m/photos/albums/browse/owner/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/photos/albums/browse/owner/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/photos/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^photo/gallery/{0,1}$  m/photos/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]

RewriteRule ^music/all/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$ m/sounds/browse/all/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery_top/{0,1}$ m/sounds/browse/top/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery_top/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/sounds/browse/top/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery_top/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/sounds/top/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/sounds/browse/tag/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/$  m/sounds/browse/tag/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/sounds/browse/tag/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)$  m/sounds/albums/browse/owner/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/$  m/sounds/albums/browse/owner/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/sounds/albums/browse/owner/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/sounds/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^music/gallery/{0,1}$  m/sounds/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]

RewriteRule ^video/all/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$ m/videos/browse/all/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery_top/{0,1}$ m/videos/browse/top/ [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery_top/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/videos/browse/top/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery_top/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/videos/top/&page=$2&per_page=$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/{0,1}$  m/videos/browse/tag/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/$  m/videos/browse/tag/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery_tag/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/videos/browse/tag/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)$  m/videos/albums/browse/owner/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/([0-9]+)/([0-9]+)/$  m/videos/albums/browse/owner/$1&page=$3&per_page=$2 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery/all/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/videos/albums/browse/owner/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery/([^/.]+)/{0,1}$  m/videos/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^video/gallery/{0,1}$  m/videos/view/$1 [QSA,L,R=permanent]

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Quote · 17 Jul 2010

If you have other URLs that will need redirection, add them. Regarding a "security issue," I have no idea what you're talking about; you'll have to refresh my memory.

I just posted the link to the documentation, which includes said redirect rules. But if you insist:

LOL - go back and READ the blog (clearly you have not) - the mod rewrite rules you have posted do not fix the issue.

Can't be arsed to go over the security issue again - I got bored of saying the same thing over and over only to have you NOT read what was being posted - as a result of this, the issue has now been ignored by Boonex.

If you do not understand something - that is fair enough, but don't muddy the water for others, by posting advice that is wrong, or ill conceived.

You have been VERY wrong in the past (aforementioned security issue) this is another one of those times.

Go do some research before shooting your mouth off.

/DM

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Quote · 17 Jul 2010

If you have other URLs that will need redirection, add them. Regarding a "security issue," I have no idea what you're talking about; you'll have to refresh my memory.

I just posted the link to the documentation, which includes said redirect rules. But if you insist:

LOL - go back and READ the blog (clearly you have not) - the mod rewrite rules you have posted do not fix the issue.

Can't be arsed to go over the security issue again - I got bored of saying the same thing over and over only to have you NOT read what was being posted - as a result of this, the issue has now been ignored by Boonex.

If you do not understand something - that is fair enough, but don't muddy the water for others, by posting advice that is wrong, or ill conceived.

You have been VERY wrong in the past (aforementioned security issue) this is another one of those times.

Go do some research before shooting your mouth off.

/DM

I have no idea what you are talking about regarding a "security issue." If you are referring to the debug output, that's a setting in the header.inc.php file that is disabled by default. If I see conclusive evidence that this default setting does not work and the debug output is indeed taking place regardless of settings, then I will identify it as a critical bug and rally behind it.

I'll be honest: I didn't read your blog post. I skimmed, and that's how I got to Andrew's comment. If the rewrite rules are incorrect, then please login to Trac and change them, as all members here now have the ability to edit the wiki.

Have a nice day.

Regards,

Nathan

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Quote · 17 Jul 2010

I have no idea what you are talking about regarding a "security issue." If you are referring to the debug output, that's a setting in the header.inc.php file that is disabled by default. If I see conclusive evidence that this default setting does not work and the debug output is indeed taking place regardless of settings, then I will identify it as a critical bug and rally behind it.

I'll be honest: I didn't read your blog post. I skimmed, and that's how I got to Andrew's comment. If the rewrite rules are incorrect, then please login to Trac and change them, as all members here now have the ability to edit the wiki.

Have a nice day.

Regards,

Nathan

LOL - Just as I expected - and blatantly obviously so - you haven't read the post. Just like you also didn't read the post regarding the security issue - which funnily enough - you are also wrong on. Without wanting to digress, or go off topic, the security issue has nothing to do with the setting you mention, although the end result is the same - debug output printed to the screen. If you had actually read the post, instead of jumping to conclusions, you would, of course know this. I posted a fix for the issue, which got lost in amongst your whinging (just like here). In the end you deleted the post so the fix was lost along with it. I will not post it again. I told you, at the time, that it would be childish to delete the post. Perhaps, now you know why.

Back on topic... a few things...

  1. This issue cannot be fixed by mod rewrite rules. (Again, if you had read the post you would know this).
  2. Even if it was - I have no intention of logging in to TRAC and changing anything. If Boonex want to pay me my standard rate for programming, I will happily chip away at all of the bugs here. But as this is unlikely to happen, I am simply happy to help people out when I have the spare time to do so - propping up a support forum that should be manned by Boonex - not me.
  3. The only place I post bugs is to the bug reporting forum, where they largely get ignored... it's not my job to play baby sitter to Boonex's devs. I give them the info - if they choose to ignore it, that's not my problem.

Go read the post - then come back here and apologise to Morocco, for giving him misleading information. Posting crap like you just did can waste days of peoples time, or perhaps worse - maybe cost someone their livelihood.

/DM

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

I always appreciate your posts DeeEmm.  I do find it really disconcerting that Boonex ignors all the great fixes here- everyone has to reinvent the wheel.  It really does seem like they have given up on D7 sometimes.

Quote · 18 Jul 2010

If the instructions given by BoonEx are indeed wrong, then I apologize: I was only going off their word.

Regarding the "security issue," the evidence pointed to people having the debug setting enabled (and I read every post). This may not be correct, and there may be a true security risk, but until evidence of this arises, I'm not crying wolf. I chose to remove my posts, and that was my decision to make. I do not care if you found this "childish," as that is your opinion: You're entitled to it. As for your "fix," I did release it in the form of a patch, and it was also released by several web sites and yourself. It's even in the topic still. If you believe that there is a security issue, then please, make a new topic discussing it, rather than complaining and following me everywhere.

That concludes my presence in this topic, since apparently, I cannot provide any help. Have a nice day.

Regards,

Nathan

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

If the instructions given by BoonEx are indeed wrong, then I apologize: I was only going off their word.

Regarding the "security issue," the evidence pointed to people having the debug setting enabled (and I read every post). This may not be correct, and there may be a true security risk, but until evidence of this arises, I'm not crying wolf. I chose to remove my posts, and that was my decision to make. I do not care if you found this "childish," as that is your opinion: You're entitled to it. As for your "fix," I did release it in the form of a patch, and it was also released by several web sites and yourself. It's even in the topic still. If you believe that there is a security issue, then please, make a new topic discussing it, rather than complaining and following me everywhere.

That concludes my presence in this topic, since apparently, I cannot provide any help. Have a nice day.

Regards,

Nathan

Followed you? Are you for real? Do you suffer from paranoia?

You really are not as bright as I first gave you credit for, and for that I must apologise.

First you admit to not reading the information, and jumping to conclusions, now you claim to have read it, but very clearly do not understand it.

It is not that Boonex's fix does not work, the issue is unfixable, but like I said - if you had read (and understood) the post you would understand this. (you may recall I asked you to go test this yourself).

If you upgrade from D6 to D7 you will have some URLS that are changed that cannot be fixed by mod rewrite or any other means. This will cause you to lose any SEO rankings that you may have gained.

Not only am I commenting from a technical perspective here, but also from direct experience. My own site has basically dropped off of the radar since upgrading to D7 from D6 as a result of these url's being changed. That was the reason for the blog I referenced earlier.

Magnus, I am getting bored with repeating myself to you. Clearly you do not understand, and just when you realise this, you scarper. If you want to reason why I am wrong, please enter into a discussion about it, but if you just want to troll, and post bullshit, be prepared to accept what is coming to you.

RE the security issue - it's too late for crying wolf - you already did it, and very publicly too, I'm sure everyone had a good laugh at your expense.

/DM

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

just want to confirm an earlier reply about losing rankings. I had #1 rankings for a few keywords in a competive niche and completely dropped out of the top 50 pages!!!! after the update.

Quote · 18 Jul 2010
 
 
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