In reply to Dolphin 7.1 (Osho) - Sites

In reply to Dolphin 7.1 (Osho) - Sites

houstonlively

houstonlively•23rd of July 2012

If this new integration from STW behaves like the "temporary fix" that was posted in the forums, expect a lot of complaints. I certainly hope that when using the free version of STW, clicking on a site thumb does not lead to an intermediate page on stw's site, because that's how their 'temporary fix' worked.

So, does it?

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Andrew Boon

Andrew Boon•23rd of July 2012•to houstonlively

This is what we've got so far. Once can just not use STW or go for another integration. Direct image uploads are still there. We're looking forward to polishing specific issues during beta testing run and specific suggestions would be highly appreciated.

[had to remove your own reply to your comment, just though I had a better one]

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houstonlively

houstonlively•23rd of July 2012•to Andrew Boon

The folks responding in this thread must be blind. I guess I'm the only one that sees a problem with clicking on a thumbnail that is supposed to link to a site, but instead being redirected to an incredibly ugly white and yellow page on shrinktheweb.com.

Let's just call this for what it is. The shrinktheweb guy wants to make sure that every single person that clicks a thumbnail on a dolphin site, knows that stw made that thumbnail by redirecting them to stw, before the link that the thumbnail see more

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Grosman•23rd of July 2012•to houstonlively

If houston is correct in that the webshots are linked to a STW page and not to the actual site it is a thumbnail for then it's a clear shortcoming and will have your users fooled and irritated.
Then the current empty pics are replaced with pics that are linked "wrong". Improvement but a dissapointment and not good.
There will be new threads on "How to solve the problem with..."

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AlexT

AlexT•23rd of July 2012•to houstonlively

Yes, there is link to STW site when free account is used. But there are some options:
- you can disable STW and use manual upload
- you can get paid account from STW it is about $5 per month
- when user is redirected to STW website, there is an option to skip preview in the future, then, upon click, user is redirected to the site immediately, without seeing yellow STW website

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houstonlively

houstonlively•23rd of July 2012•to AlexT

Who are you trying to convince that this is a good idea..... me... or yourself?

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houstonlively

houstonlively•23rd of July 2012•to AlexT

How much of that $5/month goes to Boonex for the referral?

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AlexT

AlexT•24th of July 2012•to houstonlively

$0.00

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houstonlively

houstonlively•24th of July 2012•to AlexT

That's unfortunate. For the hundreds of thousands of clicks stw will get from Dolphin based websites, I would have thought you guys would have got something out of it. However, I'm glad to hear Boonex has no incentive to keep this as-is. None of these people here will like this, once they actually figure out what I'm talking about, or their members see it in action and complain. By then, it'll be too late to change anything.

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christraeger

christraeger•24th of July 2012•to AlexT

Why is STW used when dolphin can obviously handle this itself. It makes thumbnails for groups and events...why not sites?

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paansystems

paansystems•24th of July 2012•to christraeger

do you really know what you are talking about?

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houstonlively

houstonlively•26th of July 2012•to paansystems

The idea is not as far fetched as it sounds. It is possible to generate an in-browser screen capture using javascript and a flash helper app.

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paansystems

paansystems•26th of July 2012•to houstonlively

but this will work client side

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houstonlively

houstonlively•26th of July 2012•to paansystems

correct

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paansystems

paansystems•23rd of July 2012•to houstonlively

dont know what the problem is, stw just works fine for me. and it is a free service!

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ggsinc

ggsinc•23rd of July 2012•to paansystems

In case it doesn't work well on some sites, there should be an easy way to "turn off" stw integration on the sites module. This way, if/when it isn't working, it doesn't look broken.

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paansystems

paansystems•23rd of July 2012•to ggsinc

have a closer look at the screenshot. you can see the option "ShrinkTheWeb Account Type" and there is "No Automated Screenshots" selected. So you can definately turn of the STW integration if you want to!

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houstonlively

houstonlively•24th of July 2012•to paansystems

So where's the option where I can turn off that ridiculous redirect to the big ugly yellow marketing page on stw, masquerading as some sort of 'security' page?

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ggsinc

ggsinc•25th of July 2012•to paansystems

I don't want to be able to just turn off the automated screenshots. I want the option to have people be able to just list their sites as direct links without involving stw at all. As in zero stw integration.

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paansystems

paansystems•25th of July 2012•to ggsinc

this will disable the stw integration completely ...

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ggsinc

ggsinc•25th of July 2012•to paansystems

Exactly! I want the option to disable the stw integration entirely if it 1. doesn't work as intended (as has been the case for most of the past year) or 2. doesn't work to my liking.

While the concept of stw is fabulous, if it doesn't work for my site, I want to disable it and simply have the sites module work as it is described: a place on my site for links to other sites. At the core of the issue is just this - the module is supposed to work for the dolphin site, if the stw integration interferes see more

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paansystems

paansystems•25th of July 2012•to ggsinc

as i told you, if you set it to "No Automated Screenshots" the whole stw integration is disabled ;)

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houstonlively

houstonlively•24th of July 2012•to paansystems

Since you are the one that wrote this module, and got paid by stw to do it, it comes as no surprise that you find nothing wrong with the concept.

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paansystems

paansystems•25th of July 2012•to houstonlively

things will change soon ;)

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