Thanks for the response !!

I have several things going. first i am installng Dolphin + the others on a production box at my home. I have two dedicated servers from GoDaddy but I do the work first on the production box.

that matching apache server in my production box has been up and running for almost two years with updates and the needed versions of php MySql and all the other packages involved.

in other words this isn't my first install and I know a little about paths.

there must be see more something in the install and I thought someone might have had the issue before and could help.

I guess I should have explained better in my post.

Again thanks for the response.

Trey