Sometimes VPS just ain't enough!

Well, I managed to launch my site to public after struggling for few weeks .But alas, after launching to public merely 2 hours, my site was suspended by HFW! Reason being server burst!Using too much of the root node systems resources (RAM or CPU), RMS using too many system resources!

 

Per their advice, I had to upgrade from VPS to dedicated server. They are now installing the server, hence my site will be down for at least 72 hours! Yes, down for at least 72 hours after launching 2 hours to the public. So discouraging & embarassing! 

 

Just like to share my story to all the newbies here..

Quote · 7 Jun 2008

Dolphin can even run in shared servers. Check whether there is any unwanted script was there.

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Quote · 7 Jun 2008

yeah, i should clarify that i bought smartpro, so  think it's Ray/RMS which uses too much ram/resources....

Quote · 7 Jun 2008

Plus HFW stinks..

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Quote · 7 Jun 2008

I'm using Ray since a bit more than one year on a VPS. At the begining Ray was working but very slowly... My host provider just increased the RAM from the original 128Mo to 256Mo. Then I never had any problem any more and Ray is running very fast :-)

My site has about 2'000 really active members...

Life is a fatal disease, sexually transmissible - Virginity is carcinogenic! Ask here for vaccine.
Quote · 7 Jun 2008

hmm..2000 active members? But if I understand correctly, VPS can't hold more than 400 members online at the same time. Actually I mass sent newsletter to my 1000+ members from another site (not dolphin) & asked them to join my new site. Then the new site burst 2 hours later.. Cry

Quote · 8 Jun 2008

how many people were on the site. i think this sounds a little hokey to me.  i just dont think they are being honest with you. were  you able to monitor the sites functionality prior to them saying you blew up the server? why was it pinpointed that you killed the server after all it is a vps, and that should have carried as many as 5k users. unless the server was on its way out when they gave you that account. i would watch out for these guys. good luck

later,

DosDawg

When a GIG is not enough --> Terabyte Dolphin Technical Support - Server Management and Support
Quote · 8 Jun 2008

@ anydude

 

2'000 is the total of my site's active members :-)  Until now they was never all connected at the same time :-(

Theoretically my VPS can support an unlimited number of connected users (my VPS is directly connected to the second largest national Swiss Network (40 Gbit/s)).

Life is a fatal disease, sexually transmissible - Virginity is carcinogenic! Ask here for vaccine.
Quote · 8 Jun 2008

Hi Michaeal,

Just out of interest, who is your host provider. Sounds like they've got a good set up and have been very helpful. Would be worth knowing in case I have problems in the future.

Cheers

Max

Quote · 8 Jun 2008

actually HFW sent me details. But frankly speaking, i didn't know how to interpret the report. I contacted them, they told me the best way to prevent this from happening again is to upgrade from VPS to dedicated server. H

 

Here's the details:-

 

Your VPS has been suspended to insure system stability for the root vps
node. The root node is the master system on which your VPS account
(VE) runs. Your VE was observed using too much of the root node systems
resources (RAM or CPU).

We have included some information to help you track this down so that
you may make the necessary adjustments to prevent this from happening
again. On a 1st suspension, we will un-suspend once you have contacted us
and let us know what actions you will make to prevent a re-occurrence.
However, upon 2nd suspension, you will be required to work with lvl3
to resolve this issue and begin the process of moving to a dedicated
server if it is determined that your applications require dedicated
hardware resources. We value all of our customers business, and hope that you
will continue to work with us to ensure this does not happen again.

[---START REPORT---]
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/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                   
                           
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/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
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/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
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/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28006 R anydude.com            4.04%    5.94s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27920 R anydude.com            3.57%   10.93s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
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/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
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/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27962 R anydude.com            3.28%    8.84s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28014 R anydude.com            2.73%    5.86s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27822 R anydude.com            2.72%   15.08s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28056 R anydude.com            2.55%    1.57s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27919 R anydude.com            2.37%    4.22s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27850 R anydude.com            2.30%   13.89s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
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/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28015 R anydude.com            2.23%    5.84s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28028 R anydude.com            2.11%    5.22s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28016 R anydude.com            1.70%    3.52s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28003 R anydude.com            1.59%    6.92s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27754 R anydude.com            1.57%   18.53s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27801 R anydude.com            1.30%   16.13s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27751 R anydude.com            1.27%   18.88s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27752 R anydude.com            1.17%   18.87s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27749 R anydude.com            1.01%   18.88s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27945 R anydude.com            0.87%    1.15s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27860 R anydude.com            0.79%    1.26s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28095 R anydude.com            0.65%    1.55s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27863 R anydude.com            0.59%    1.70s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27819 R anydude.com            0.16%    6.08s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27786 R anydude.com            0.10%   10.22s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27753 R anydude.com            0.00%   18.70s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27787 R anydude.com            0.00%   17.17s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27799 R anydude.com            0.00%   16.14s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27820 R anydude.com            0.00%   15.10s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27823 R anydude.com            0.00%   15.07s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27824 R anydude.com            0.00%   15.04s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27847 R anydude.com            0.00%   14.03s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27848 R anydude.com            0.00%   13.96s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27854 R anydude.com            0.00%   13.89s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27855 R anydude.com            0.00%   13.88s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27852 R anydude.com            0.00%   13.88s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27857 R anydude.com            0.00%   13.08s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27858 R anydude.com            0.00%   12.46s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27864 R anydude.com            0.00%   12.04s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27768 R anydude.com            0.00%   10.42s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27942 R anydude.com            0.00%    9.92s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27944 R anydude.com            0.00%    9.91s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27856 R anydude.com            0.00%    8.90s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27959 R anydude.com            0.00%    8.87s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27965 R anydude.com            0.00%    8.83s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27818 R anydude.com            0.00%    8.67s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27958 R anydude.com            0.00%    8.43s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27968 R anydude.com            0.00%    8.24s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27999 R anydude.com            0.00%    7.17s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28000 R anydude.com            0.00%    7.14s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28001 R anydude.com            0.00%    6.97s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28004 R anydude.com            0.00%    6.77s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28005 R anydude.com            0.00%    6.76s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28013 R anydude.com            0.00%    5.88s GET
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28025 R anydude.com            0.00%    5.33s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27798 R anydude.com            0.00%    4.85s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27943 R anydude.com            0.00%    4.84s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27957 R anydude.com            0.00%    4.56s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
28054 R anydude.com            0.00%    4.48s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27844 R anydude.com            0.00%    4.12s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27862 R anydude.com            0.00%    1.70s GET
/ray/modules/music/files/12.mp3 HTTP/1.1                                                 
                             
27859 R anydude.com            0.00%    1.70s GET
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Quote · 8 Jun 2008

Let me get this straight... HFW says you need a dedicated server and the only evidence they can send you is a page full of requests for ONE FILE?? Whatever mp3 #12 is it must be VERY popular. My question is how can Hostmonster let me have 15 sites on a SHARED hosting account but HFW has the balls to tell you that you need to upgrade to a dedicated server!?! Isn't their cheapest one like $150 a month? I'm paying less than that for a year. Remember hosting plans are like dating, NOT getting married :-)

 

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Quote · 8 Jun 2008

I don't pretend to understand the technology here, but I agree with Msscott - something smells funny.  I have a low cost host that was painfully slow at first.  When I asked them about this, on their own initiative they did some research about Dolphin, made a few tweaks related to RMS (but as far as I know did not install an RMS server) and got it working at an acceptable performance level (though it has not yet been battle-tested).  In the course of my business, I have found people paying outrageous prices for hosting, as most people don't understand it is basically a commodity these days.  I think these guys were using this as an excuse to make up upgrade to a dedicated server.

Rob

p.s.  My host is Alterhosting.com - I'm paying $29 for 10 domains and unlimited traffic- so far, I have been very happy with them.

Quote · 8 Jun 2008

@ avhow

 

I sent you an email with some infos about my host provider ;-)

They are hosting some Logitech, Swiss Airlines, Orange, Nokia... sites ;-)

Expensive of course :-)

Life is a fatal disease, sexually transmissible - Virginity is carcinogenic! Ask here for vaccine.
Quote · 8 Jun 2008

Hi,

Yeah Michael I got that, thanks. I'm certainly gonna make a note of all the recommendations.

It would be a very good idea to have a post with a list of all the good recommended hosts for everyones benefit.

It seems that a lot of the people who post on here are having problems with their hosts. A lot of teh time I bet they are attributing the Dolphin problems to Dolphin when its probably just a dodgy host.

In this case i would remove that file 12 and then contact HFW and tell them what you have done, get them to get it going again, and then monitor your bandwidth and the like.

Cheers

Max

Quote · 8 Jun 2008

@ avhow

 

I don't like to do anything that will be unfair to BoonEx.

 

They have some agreement with HostForWeb, that's fine for me. I will not advertise my own host provider here.

 

Even if my host provider is offering professional services, I had to ask to customize their "standard" php.ini to fit Dolphin/Ray/Orca requierements (for example to allow true fonts in GD library or xslt support...). I think that these "special" settings are the conditions to run a "special" web site.

 

If anybody needs infos about my hosting, please send me an email. Most of the time I answer soon or within 24 hours ;-)

 

 

 

Life is a fatal disease, sexually transmissible - Virginity is carcinogenic! Ask here for vaccine.
Quote · 8 Jun 2008

but I thought we must have at least VPS plan to run Ray? I'm a bit confused as I've checked this with at least 3 web host. If I understand correctly, we can use shared server if we were to install Dolphin only , without Ray.

 

hmm...regarding removing file#12. I was too panicky when my site was down & couldn't access cpanel. I did think of  removing file#12 and then monitor the situation. But on second thought,  I decided to proceed to upgrade to dedicated server as I was too exhausted and wanted a quick way out since i had spent too much time on ironing those problem I faced with boonex, no more energy left to tackle server problem.

 

Honestly speaking, I only have experience running a free forum with thousand+ members. This is my 1st time using paid community software and I've no web programming or other technical knowledge, so there are many things for me to learn from here.Embarassed

Quote · 9 Jun 2008

It seems the ffmpeg.exe in the ray/modules/global/app caused the problem,

Already its well known that the ffmpeg.exe take much of server resource. So many hosts won't support it.

You can install a new ffmpeg and use it rather than the one in dolphin pack.

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Quote · 9 Jun 2008
 
 
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