Video file size restrictions

What does this line do in BxFilesUploader.php?

$sFileSize = sprintf("%u", $iFileSize / 1024);

And this line in BxDolFilesUploader.php?

'file_size_limit' => $this->iMaxFilesize,

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Quote · 4 Dec 2009

Just in case you are wondering, I still can't break the 100 mb barrier on a video upload. Have confirmed server settings are set to allow a max size of 165mb. The .wmv file I am trying to upload is 152 megs. It always ends in failure.....

I made a post a few days ago about it. I will try and find the link. The end of the upload attempt always results in a split screen with the subscription signup page... Very weird.

I found the previous post. This does not happen with smaller files, only when I try to upload this 152 meg bane of my existence.

http://www.boonex.com/unity/forums/#topic/Video-Upload-Error-Subscription-Screen.htm

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Quote · 4 Dec 2009

what do you have set for

max_execution_time

max_input_time

max_execution_time and max_input_time

These settings define the maximum life time of the script and the time that the script should spend in accepting input. If several mega bytes of data are being transfered max_input_time should be reasonably high.

Quote · 4 Dec 2009

I think they are set to 5000, will have to confirm.

Yup, max execution and max input are both set to 5000 as well as max upload size confirmed set at 165 meg

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Quote · 4 Dec 2009

Hello? Anybody home ???   (knock knock knock)

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Quote · 4 Dec 2009

http://www.astahost.com/info.php/max_allowed_packet-mysql_t2725.html

it might help you

Quote · 4 Dec 2009

They are talking about the max_allowed_packet, not maximum file size. Two different things I think.

 

From that same site:

 

  Thanks for sharing it with us smile.gif - but thats not quite the right idea.

    The max_allowed_packet option specifies how large your MySQL Query/Data Packet can be, and NOT the Maximum
File Size that MySQL can maintain. MySQL can theoretically handle database files upto 1 Terrabyte in size.

     Your article demonstrates that the recent versions of MySQL server can respond to Querries and the MySQL Client can receive data packets - both of which are around 1GB in size... so there smile.gif

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Quote · 4 Dec 2009

common now be nice i'm trying to help Laughing

what's the max Mb that you can upload

Quote · 4 Dec 2009

Did you check bothte post_max_size and upload_file_maxsize settings, both are important.

Quote · 4 Dec 2009

I don't think post_max_size has anything to do with video. I did find something else though.

 

They made a change in http://www.boonex.com/trac/dolphin/changeset/11890 and as far as I can tell, you now have to use a php.ini file to set this size iMaxFileSize ....

 

 

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Quote · 4 Dec 2009

might work in the next rc

Quote · 4 Dec 2009

Added the php.ini and all that accomplishes is locking up my browser when I attempt to do the upload. I would have to say at this point that I cannot see any reason for this failure to continue to happen. It must be a server configuration problem.

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Quote · 4 Dec 2009

Reduced the wmv file to 85 megs. It uploaded and processed just fine. The video is now available on my site. There is some sort of 100 meg block. I don't know if it's on the server or in the software itsself but it's stifling. I really need some answers as to just what the maximims are and how they are applied and how to be able to infinitely adjust them.

 

I hope I don't offend anyone but I need to take a moment and make myself heard. I don't know if anyone  has noticed yet but I am not like the run of the mill internet freak. I know just enough to make everyone around me crazy.

 

There are a Bazillion sites out there and it seems to me that many people want to build a site that is as popular as the big boys and they want to do it by feeding off them. It won't work. I saw one post in here that went on endlessly about how we should all disable the ability to upload videos and just ride on youtubes back to glory! Total nonsense and it's obvious to me he will never acheive his 100,000 member goal. He'll just be another guppy in the internet pond.

 

It's Frikkin Hogwash!

 

First of all, does anyone here know what the algorythym youtube uses for compression is? Have you ever really looked at the quality of the video that comes off that site? In my estimation, unless you are a multimillion dollar user of youtube, your compression rate is maybe 10 or 15% of the original file. To me, it appears it's only one step away from a completely unviewable product. Why? so they can reduce the file to a size that's so infinitesimally small it will stream across a 56k phone connect.

 

Now I know we do not have the reserves for space that they do but that shouldn't stop you from trying to take your community to a better place and try and find ways to better your users experience. For me and my site, it is all coming down to the quality of video I can deliver. The only way I can have control over that is to allow them to upload to my server, NOT Youtubes! If you use an embed only setup, I can guarantee you, for at least myself anyway, I won"t stay there for any length of time, If I want to view embedded videos, I will just click through your site and go directly to the source. There is nothing at your site to keep me there.

 

That's why I keep coming back to this video restriction issue. It is a MAJOR stumbling block for me and I can't seem to get any real answers as to who, what, why, when or how to deal with it. It is my intention to grow my site by the advertisers dollar and make it a place that ALL individuals in my industry can come and upload their recovery videos and photos and still retain some of the quality of their stuff! I know that means I will have to learn how to manage the advertisers dollar with space purchases and server configurations but that is my choice! I do not want to be involved with another forum for the masses. Don't restrict me because you are afraid someone else is going to find fault with it.

 

Administrative tools need to be upgraded here to a reasonable level. The ones that are available for setting things like this are ridiculous in their inception. It's almost like they were designed to fool you into thinking you actually have some control over your end product when you really don't.

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Quote · 5 Dec 2009

Unfortunately I dont have any 100M video files lying around. I'll see if I can scrounge one up and test on mine as well.

Quote · 5 Dec 2009

Are your users really going to have the patience to upload 100MB videos?  Just the upload time alone, on an average DSL connection, is 38 minutes.. on a good day.....  who knows what the processing time is going to be.  

It will be a great day when  RMS can deliver h.264 video. Red5 is currently at V  0.9.0 RC2 and v 0.9 introduces h.264 streaming.   Question is, how long before this propagates to Boonex/RMS?

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Quote · 5 Dec 2009

Man, I could go on about this forever.

 

My biggest problem is I am trying to build a streaming environment in the US. Currently, the US is so far behind all the other countries in available bandwidth to it's citizens, it's embarrassing. Last I heard, the average Japanese internet connection is around 60 mbits for about the same price as I pay here for my measly 4.7 mbits US average. Upload speeds in the US NEVER exceed 768 kbps unless you buy a commercial connection. Mine is a 1.5m T1 that costs me ridiculous amounts of cash each month just for a little added upstream speed.

 

Once I managed to get the video to load, I did several tests. here's what I discovered.

 

  • Resetting the "Recording Quality" in the flash aps widget has no effect on uploaded videos. that only applies to the video comments posted using a camera.
  • It's the same with the "Recording fps" That setting has no effect on the videos you upload, only on the incoming video compression of your laptop cam. great for getting laid, but worthless otherwise.
  • The video compression is either enabled or not enabled, all dependant on the "Save video original quality while converting" checkmark. There is no way to actually adjust it. The current compression rate is ridiculously low so the video is worse than you can get on youtube. The 85 meg video I uploaded was reduced to 33 megs in all cases, no matter the settings. It's a ten minute stream. 333kbps stream rate per minute? LOL!
  • There is no way to adjust the maximum upload size. Even if you can get the server to upsize it, you are stuck at 100 megs.

I am still trying to get some answers.

  1. How do you adjust the compression rate of the videos you are uploading?
  2. How do you adjust the maximum upload file size successfully?
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Quote · 5 Dec 2009

 

Are your users really going to have the patience to upload 100MB videos?  Just the upload time alone, on an average DSL connection, is 38 minutes.. on a good day.....  who knows what the processing time is going to be.  

It will be a great day when  RMS can deliver h.264 video. Red5 is currently at V  0.9.0 RC2 and v 0.9 introduces h.264 streaming.   Question is, how long before this propagates to Boonex/RMS?

 38 minutes? I've been doing 85 megs all night in less than 15 with 1.5 upload speeds. People will sit for HOURS to upload their stuff onto youtube.

 

PS, I think my math is wrong on that stream rate. It's 33 megs over 10-1/2 minutes. That's pretty close to dialup speeds, LOL

 

The processing of the 85 meg file was taking about 6 minutes.

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Quote · 5 Dec 2009

Your average DSL connection will barely hit 350,000 bps upstream.  If you got 1.5Mbps upstream, you're lucky.  most people won't. 

85  Mbytes @ 1.5Mbps will take 7.55 minutes to transfer at 100% efficiency, so your transfer time sounds about right.  However, with a DSL connection that only has a 350,000 bps upstream rate, that 7.55 minutes becomes 32 minutes.. at least.... more likely 45 minutes to an hour.

I would like to know if the Boonex RMS will be updated to support h.264 streaming when it's available..... jump in any time here Boonex.

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Quote · 5 Dec 2009

go with FIOS net

Download up to 25 Mbps/
Upload up to 15 Mbps

$69.99/month

http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSInternet/Plans/Plans.htm

Quote · 6 Dec 2009

go with FIOS net

Download up to 25 Mbps/
Upload up to 15 Mbps

$69.99/month

http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSInternet/Plans/Plans.htm

I think its funny how the US has some of the slowest "highspeed" of the developed world.  ATT and Comcast wants the FCC to reclassify highspeed to include download of only 100k.

Quote · 6 Dec 2009

I am on comcast :) 49.95 /month

Nothing to see here
Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Hey Zarcon I have the same plan you do but I'm getting a better service in the same city!

Same as the FIOS and $20 cheaper.

Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Here's a question for you all. Why do you think the upload speeds are so much lower than the download speeds?

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Quote · 7 Dec 2009

The reason your upload and download speeds are different is because of the method of data transfer. While downloading, since the files are already hosted on a server, the speeds are quite high – provided the server on which they are hosted has the capability to serve those speeds. While uploading, however, it is entirely dependant on your ISP and your computer, and depending on the server you are uploading to, the speed will be lower.

Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Need for Speed  Laughing

Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Just $9.95 a month Laughing

Your grahpic didn't show until I hit reply, holly cow!!!

What service is that?

Quote · 7 Dec 2009

 

The reason your upload and download speeds are different is because of the method of data transfer. While downloading, since the files are already hosted on a server, the speeds are quite high – provided the server on which they are hosted has the capability to serve those speeds. While uploading, however, it is entirely dependant on your ISP and your computer, and depending on the server you are uploading to, the speed will be lower.

 So. You are giving that as the reason you cannot get over a 728kbps upload speed from your ISP even when they are able to give to 20mbps or higher download speeds? (In America)

 

PS, you guys do know that Comcast filters your content right?

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Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Broadband upload speeds are generally much slower than download speeds.

people generally do far more downloading than uploading, so downloading is given priority by the ISPs

Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Broadband upload speeds are generally much slower than download speeds.

people generally do far more downloading than uploading, so downloading is given priority by the ISPs

Actually, that is not the reason ISP's restrict upload speeds. I am an ISP, and there is a very specific reason as to why it's done.

Your upload speed is the other ends download speed.

The upload speed is limited to discourage people from running bandwidth intensive servers at home. As a server, people connecting to you are using their download, but your upload. By restricting the upload rate, it makes running a server at home kinda pointless unless what your server is doing does not require much bandwidth.

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Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Wow.  My connection really rocks!



Southwestern Bell DSL service.  Only $79.95 per month.

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Quote · 7 Dec 2009

Wow.  My connection really rocks!



Southwestern Bell DSL service.  Only $79.95 per month.

WHAT??? You pay 79.95 for a standard 1500x384 DSL connection?

Hmmm, i am not charging my customers enough. I charge $43 for that, and i am loosing the battle with verizon because they charge far less. Your getting ripped off.

But that must be a bundled package. Your phone is on there too for that price. Right?

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

I have 5 static IP addresses   ... that I really don't need anymore.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

I checked Comcast, and in Houston, they only offer 12Mbps upstream and a max of 2Mbps downstream for $69.95..... yippee!  I live in the 4th largest city in the US, and it amazes me what I can't get here sometimes.

At least we have armadillos.... that's something.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

I have 5 static IP addresses

AH. I cant even get static IP's in this area. To bad i have to partner with verizon to even offer DSL. If i could do it myself it would be great.

Ah well. I don't expect my ISP business to last much longer anyhow.

Oh how i long for the days when 14.4k and 33.6K modems were the thing, and high speed in the home was not possible.

I had a very good business then. Now. I just can't be competitive in the high speed market. That belongs to the Phone and Cable companys.



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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

Yeah.... I remember the days of 300 baud modems and dialup BBs.  Downloading a 90KB file took an hour.... but I could fit over a hundred of 'em on my 20MB HDD

I really loved that X-Modem protocol that could resume broken downloads.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

Yeah.... I remember the days of 300 baud modems amd dialup BBs.  Downloading a 90KB file took an hour.... but I could fit over a hundred of 'em on my 20MB HDD

LOL. Yea. I used to run a BBS of my own. Lots of fun.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

i also remember the time when netzero was sending me bills of $200-300

Quote · 8 Dec 2009

i also remember the time when netzero was sending me bills of $200-300

Ouch.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

If your Dolphin site loads in 5 seconds, it would have taken 7 hours in the days of 300 baud modems.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

 

Yeah.... I remember the days of 300 baud modems and dialup BBs.  Downloading a 90KB file took an hour.... but I could fit over a hundred of 'em on my 20MB HDD

I really loved that X-Modem protocol that could resume broken downloads.

 LOLOL! I thought I was alone! I remember $500 phone bills because I would set for hours online with some BBS in New York playing Trade Wars 2002! If I'm not mistaken, that was before the real "Internet" even existed! Anyone actually ever own one of those modems you put your handset into? I think I was the first person to ever get infected by a virus from downloading a file from one of those old bulletin boards!

 

YellThis thread has gone way way south of the original topic.......

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Quote · 9 Dec 2009

LOL, downloading that picture of the BBS with that 3600 baud modem was an very exciting 2 days to see what it was :P

Chris

Nothing to see here
Quote · 9 Dec 2009

Yeah.... I remember the days of 300 baud modems and dialup BBs.  Downloading a 90KB file took an hour.... but I could fit over a hundred of 'em on my 20MB HDD

I really loved that X-Modem protocol that could resume broken downloads.

LOLOL! I thought I was alone! I remember $500 phone bills because I would set for hours online with some BBS in New York playing Trade Wars 2002! If I'm not mistaken, that was before the real "Internet" even existed! Anyone actually ever own one of those modems you put your handset into? I think I was the first person to ever get infected by a virus from downloading a file from one of those old bulletin boards!

YellThis thread has gone way way south of the original topic.......

Acoustically Coupled Modems. Yes, i used to own one. Misplaced or lost it a long time ago during one of my moves. But i still have a old. 2400 Hayes External Smartmodem in my old parts junk pile. Ohhhh, such pretty blinking red lights.


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Quote · 9 Dec 2009

Hi, Guys:

We are talking about how to fix the issue to upload big video file ( > 100 MB), not the uploading speed.

I have the same issue to upload big video file and can't figure out how to fix it.

Boonex developing team, give us some suggestions for this issue.

Quote · 10 Dec 2009

 

 

Broadband upload speeds are generally much slower than download speeds.

people generally do far more downloading than uploading, so downloading is given priority by the ISPs

Actually, that is not the reason ISP's restrict upload speeds. I am an ISP, and there is a very specific reason as to why it's done.

Your upload speed is the other ends download speed.

The upload speed is limited to discourage people from running bandwidth intensive servers at home. As a server, people connecting to you are using their download, but your upload. By restricting the upload rate, it makes running a server at home kinda pointless unless what your server is doing does not require much bandwidth.

 

 

Exactly! Can you imagine what would happen to the big players market share if everyone had fair access to the internet? It's all part of the push by the big boys (Comcast etc.) to become the "Gatekeepers" of the internet. It is just another ploy by the big corporations to control the masses for their financial gain without any respect for our rights. Big Government also plays a very large part in the control of the disemmination of information.

 

The real fact is if everyone had the same speeds uploading as they do downloading, there really wouldn't be any more bandwidth consumption, just a major shift of power in favor of the consumer.

 

One small fact. In most locations, the infrastructure has far more bandwidth available than could ever be used by todays available technologies.

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Quote · 11 Dec 2009
 
 
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