D7 RMS Beta | D7 RMS RC1 | D7 RMS RC2 DIFF Report

DosDawg posted 4th of December 2009 in Community Voice. 29 comments.

to those who were interested and wanted to know, of course trying to stay ahead of the pack, i just believed that because the code was released with a different version, that there was some relevant change made to the RMS. well ack, wasted my time.

I did inquire of boonex what the DIFF was on these releases and of course got no answer. So after installing the RC2 which was as big of a waste of time as installing RC1 over D7 Beta. but hey live and learn.

[root@rms2 src]# diff -urN RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-Beta.tar.gz RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-RC.tar.gz

[root@rms2 src]#

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29087906 Jul 14 17:34 RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-Beta.tar.gz

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29087906 Nov 17 17:05 RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-RC.tar.gz

Just thought you'd find it interesting.

and then further research was that we discovered that there was no difference at all between D7 RMS Beta and D7 RMS RC2

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29087906 Nov 20 15:57

> /usr/src/RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-RC.tar.gz

>

> RMS7RC2 just downloaded:

> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29087906 Dec 4 16:43 RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-RC.tar.gz

>

> As you can see they are the same size. And diff reports no differences:

>

> [root@mrpilot ~]# diff -urN RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-RC.tar.gz

> /usr/src/RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-RC.tar.gz

> [root@mrpilot ~]#

>

> The changes between RC and RC2 must have been limited to Dolphin only

> and not the RMS.

hope this saves somebody some time. since i run multiple installations of RMS, this was painstaking for me. and as i said, it would be noted that if you change a version number and or name, that would indicate that there has something been changed on that fileset in order to warrant that name change.

Regards,

DosDawg

 
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mydatery
There was a change. But of course, it would be to obvious of a change to be noted by the super technical.

Here it is from those of us who are to stupid according to some to be able to figure anything out.

You had: D7 RMS Beta: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29087906 Jul 14 17:34 RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-Beta.tar.gz


And you updated it to:

D7 RMS RC -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29087906 Nov 17 17:05 RMS-LINUX-v.7.0-RC.tar.gz

The difference is in the name, as noone really wants to trust anything that see more has "Beta" in it's name. The new file name reflects this is a release candidate version and as such you should utilize it in a manner to verify there are NO issues with it.

Of course, we know how busy you are with all those RMS installs on your SHARED servers so you just didn't have the time to see what those of us not as smart as you saw.
DosDawg
in contrast to your post, and it is directly reflective of your implication.

a file name does not now nor ever did constitute a change in which DIFF would locate and report. that is the title of this post.

a file name would not be a reason for somebody who has spent their time and efforts to install RMS to reinstall because of a NAME.

In computing, diff is a file comparison utility that outputs the differences between two files. It is typically used to show the changes between a file and see more a former version of the same file. Diff displays the changes made per line for text files. Modern implementations also support binary files.[1] The output is called a diff or a patch since the output can be applied with the Unix program patch. The output of similar file comparison utilities are also called a "diff". Like the use of the word "grep" for describing the act of searching, the word diff is used in jargon as a verb for calculating any difference.

and i dont understand what the purpose is in your mouth being put on me. please refrain.

Regards,
DosDawg
mydatery
1. Since your such a great Dolphin host it would seem that your first step when getting set to upgrade would be to run the Diff "Before" you do anything else so you can choose the best route to take. Either re-install the entire RMS or simply apply the changes.

2. Not putting my "mouth" on you. Pretty sure I wouldn't like the taste if I did. Not implying anything, but your definitely not my type John.
DosDawg
go stomp in your own puddle mcgrew. your negative cantor is not going to affect me, nor what i choose to post.

do yourself a favor, and find somewhere else to post your negative comments. they are not welcome on the blog i created, and they are not welcome on this site.

it would behoove you to refrain from posting anything further on this blog. your interest and knowledge are not needed nor desired.

Regards,
DosDawg
houstonlively
It is common practice to supply a change log when supplying an upgrade. Since there were no changes, how hard could that have been?

The same thing should be done with D7 upgrades. Boonex should supply a list of changed files and a zip archive that contains only the changed files. I'd like to be able to unzip the archive on the server without overwriting files that haven't changed.
DosDawg
exactly, and because RMS was purported as having the need to reinstall, which wasnt the case, many were of the belief that they needed to change their RMS because the name changed.

so the gist of this post is to let those know who have "shared" RMS or have installed on a dedicated machine. If the individual did not install the RMS and paid for the installation which many do, then they can save themselves a few bucks for the installation, because its not necessary.

I will also be see more reporting the DIFF on D7 Final for those who are interested.

Will also be trying to find the time to DIFF the Final Release and get a decent report back.

Regards,
DosDawg
mydatery
Here's a question for you John, since your hosting company does host alot of Dolphin sites, how did this cause "YOU" a lot of extra work?

Before anyone jumps in here, keep in mind that Terabyte-Hosting "ONLY" offers "SHARED" server space (perhaps they might offer Dedicated, not sure of that one) and therefore it's a simple fact that to cover "ALL" the RMS needs of "ALL" your clients that you would only have to install 1 RMS. After all, your see more clients who host with you "DO NOT" have the ability to run their own RMS, as they have to lease from you or someone else.

I vaguely recall a discussion on this topic between you, I and a couple of other people a year or so ago. Actually, in 20 days it'll be a year ago.
mydatery
Here's a question for you John, since your hosting company does host alot of Dolphin sites, how did this cause "YOU" a lot of extra work?

Before anyone jumps in here, keep in mind that Terabyte-Hosting "ONLY" offers "SHARED" server space (perhaps they might offer Dedicated, not sure of that one) and therefore it's a simple fact that to cover "ALL" the RMS needs of "ALL" your clients that you would only have to install 1 RMS. After all, your see more clients who host with you "DO NOT" have the ability to run their own RMS, as they have to lease from you or someone else.

I vaguely recall a discussion on this topic between you, I and a couple of other people a year or so ago. Actually, in 20 days it'll be a year ago.
DosDawg
for your insidious posts, i will ignore them, as they are just as ludicrous as you are. you wish to know so much and you know so little about me or what i do. pay attention to what the purpose of the post was for. it was for information to others. if you didnt need this information, you should have kept on moving.

i will not waste my time or the space on a disk to entertain your negative attitude or negative comments toward me or my business entity. if you have nothing good or positive to state see more on a blog topic, utilize the navigational menu and move along.

Regards,
DosDawg
mydatery
DD, this is a "Blog" for open discussion on the topic of RMS's and the upgrade between the D7 Beta and the D7 RC2. I'm simply pointing out the obvious, which is useful to many as this read this and are forced to make decisions in regards to Dolphin, RMS and Servers.

Please keep in mind, the purpose of a discussion is for the topic to evolve, in a manner that can be informative to others, assist in reaching a solution to a problem and even move into related tangents that help to foster see more development of the base topic.

As far as wasting "YOUR" disk space goes, these posts are on the Boonex servers, therefore unless you own Boonex or hte servers that Boonex hosts on, then this is NOT your disk space. But thank you for your concern.


***Note: The posts only need to assist in evolution of the topic at hand, not necessarily agree with the opinion/position of the original poster or others participating in the discussion. If all agreed from the start there would be no need for a discusion on the topic to assist in reaching a viable solution.
DosDawg
i will not waste my time

or the space on a disk

to entertain your negative attitude or negative comments

never insinuated this was my diskspace. ha ha ha ha, talk about reading what was posted HELLO.

the rest of your post was correct in its form. that is the purpose of the blog is to share information. information that was not shared, and from the pretense of the fileset that was offered for download, it would be assumed that an upgrade of RMS was necessary.

the purpose of this see more blog was for information for others and is for information for others, not for you to come in here and write your negative connotations to.



Regards,
DosDawg
mydatery
Okay, so you say you agree with me on the purpose of the blog to share information with others, specifically information that was not shared.

So, with that in mind then your stating that the purpose of the blog is to share the information YOU choose to share and that no others are permitted to share any information or provide any additional insight in any manner outside of what you have previously stated in the blog.

Oh, now I get it. Sorry, I'm a little slow today and all. Please, allow see more me to bow down with my little scoop and retrieve that which you have so graciously squatted to deposit in my yard. NOT.

Now, on to the topic at hand that you started. One could argue that Boonex did in fact provide a complete list of all items that we're altered between D7 RMS Beta & D7 RMS RC2, in that there were no changes there is no list.

Problem resolved and I'm glad that I can help you see that. I also greatly appreciate the time you spent confirming the accuracy of the changelist that Boonex provided.

Please have a nice day and note the exits are well lit for your safety.
houstonlively
I think you boys should meet out in a parking lot with flip towels and settle this like men.
DosDawg
Texas rules as we understand them, but it was never really a parking lot, moreso a cow pasture, next to a pump jack. LOL
mydatery
It sounds like an awesome idea there Houston, unfortunately I'd probably get accused of abusing a Senior Citizen...

Perhaps I'll just withhold his feeding tube instead. LOL
deano92964
Ok DosDawg.

Now that we all know there is no difference, how about getting my domain setup on it, and send me the ip and port info so i can finish my upgrade.
deano92964
Thank you. Seems to be working fine.
EXO34
My goodness, that mydatery is a nasty arrogant piece of work, im surprised he hasnt been banned from here, he spoilt what could have been a very interesting subject.

He needs to grow up, and stop spoiling this place for everybody, not only on the blogs but on the forums too.
Is there no moderators on here then that can sort members like him out. His attitude really gives this place a bad feel.
mistertunechat
Doesn't seem to be moderated at all at times. Or maybe they just don't seem to care about trolling members like mydatery whos soul purpose is harassing anyone and everyone.
guynuked
I asked my host to install the RMS RC2 for 25 bucks. I'm betting the "final version" if there's ever one will have something changed.

A more productive discussion here would be how to easily upgrade the RMS without the bickerings. I'd like to see Dosdawg's energy being put into simple instructions of upgrading RMS via root (as I have a VPS and am ok with using root for basic needs) than having to defend himself and his company in order to protect the image.

Thankd DosDawg for posting see more this valuable information. I appreciate it.
DosDawg
guynuked, i will work on putting that up between now and months end. of course as you may well know, its holiday season, and with that comes the hustle and bustle of prep.

i will certainly stay on top of the Release of RMS and keep those who need the information informed as best i can.

thanks for the positive feedback.

Regards,
DosDawg
mistertunechat
No one should feed into the negative ignorance that spews out of mydaterys mouth. He has made this entire site unpleasant. Constant bashing of others, and he is just all out rude. He may say one thing that could possibly be informative but 9 times out of 10 its overshadowed by his rudeness. Dos Dawg should not even stoop to mydaterys level by humoring the likes of him. It's a shame the blogs and forums have dwindled down so much, because of harassing posts from people like mydatery who just see more can't agree to disagree.
 
 
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